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TLC Forum We'll leave the lamppost on for you. 2015-10-06T10:06:06 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/app.php/feed/topic/101 2015-10-06T10:06:06 2015-10-06T10:06:06 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=60015#p60015 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]>
I am not sure about "deeply disturbed", but I am sure about deeply ambitious. And such a man may well have been possessed by a demon.

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But it is an interesting alternative hypothesis that Tash of the Tisroc's line could be a man who was, in a manner of speaking, roleplaying the god. Possibly someone deeply disturbed, or possibly a priest who claimed to have been possessed by the god to become his mouthpiece?

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2015-07-24T08:15:49 2015-07-24T08:15:49 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=55091#p55091 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]>
But in fact he does look like a demon having a relation to Apocalypse, from Last Battle, and that would fit Abaddon being his identity (not just counterpart in our world).

In that case, "Tash the ancestor" would be some man unhappy enough to have worshipped the demon and to have played his role.

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The fact that Jadis mentioned temples makes me curious about what sort of religion(s) they had in Charn. Ideas, anyone?
Tash worship?

And then in Narnian world it was Jadis who initiated the human ancestor Tash-the-first-Tisroc in it?
That's a possibility...
I've always assumed that Tash was either a Narnian Satan-expy, and thus a fallen Star, or a Calormen-area nature-deity (similar to the river-gods in Narnia) who got too big for his britches. But I do enjoy hearing alternative explanations.

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2015-07-02T12:43:08 2015-07-02T12:43:08 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=53307#p53307 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]> Statistics: Posted by hansgeorg — Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:43 pm


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2015-06-27T19:13:02 2015-06-27T19:13:02 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=52836#p52836 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]> Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:13 pm


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2015-06-27T15:06:32 2015-06-27T15:06:32 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=52819#p52819 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]>
The fact that Jadis mentioned temples makes me curious about what sort of religion(s) they had in Charn. Ideas, anyone?
Tash worship?

And then in Narnian world it was Jadis who initiated the human ancestor Tash-the-first-Tisroc in it?

Actually, I got the impression Charn was in such a bad fix that Jadis was rightful but tyrant (as her fathers), her sister a rebel with some conscience, but still not a right one.

There is another point about this, which is to me the greatest theological problem with the Magician's Nephew, surpassing even talking animals (they were necessary for rest of series, plus Narnia could have been created to show evolution believers absurdity of evolution): the LONG decay of Charn, past any true worship of the true God being even remembered:

http://filolohika.blogspot.fr/2013/05/t ... tmare.html

Of course, the solution might be that Jadis was not telling the story correctly. How much would Nimrod have said about Abraham (supposing they met, which seems unlikely)?

Other example is of course "mind reading":

http://filolohika.blogspot.fr/2015/06/t ... y-one.html

(links approved by Tooky)

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2015-02-23T23:54:46 2015-02-23T23:54:46 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=35766#p35766 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]> Statistics: Posted by Lily of Archenland — Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:54 pm


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I think the sister must have had a driven personality like Jadis, otherwise she would not have waged war. The question, though, is what she used that drive for. We've seen before how C.S. Lewis illustrates how people's beliefs can skew their perceptions-- the Calormens view the Narnians as barbarians and devils, for example, and Screwtape (from The Screwtape Letters) views God as "the Enemy." So when Jadis calls her sister a "weakling" with "horrible, wicked eyes", it's hard to know what's the truth.

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2014-01-14T04:30:08 2014-01-14T04:30:08 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=11235#p11235 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]> Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:30 am


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2014-01-14T03:50:41 2014-01-14T03:50:41 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101&p=11229#p11229 <![CDATA[Re: Charn]]> Statistics: Posted by Lil — Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:50 am


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