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TLC Forum We'll leave the lamppost on for you. 2014-01-25T05:39:40 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/app.php/feed/topic/107 2014-01-25T05:39:40 2014-01-25T05:39:40 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=12041#p12041 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]>

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2014-01-25T05:10:42 2014-01-25T05:10:42 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=12035#p12035 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]>
Hm... I wonder whether Aravis, as somebody with an inside knowledge of how Calormen nobility works and thinks, might be placed in a position to help negotiate treaties and trades with Calormen on Archenland's behalf in the future? In Cor's time as ruler, if not sooner.

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2013-09-12T19:03:57 2013-09-12T19:03:57 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=3278#p3278 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> I like the fiddler on the roof comparison.

I like to imagine that somehow in later years there could be a reconciliation between Aravis and her Father. Perhaps the Tisroc desiring peace with Archenland would support Kidrash making peace with his daughter and think Aravis would forgive him.

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2013-08-29T17:25:00 2013-08-29T17:25:00 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1051#p1051 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> I'm personally of the belief that he at least wanted to do some good by her. And while his wife convinced him to give Aravis in marriage to Ahoshta, he might have resisted it at first. I rather doubt the conversation ran like this: "Hey, honey, Ahoshta would be a great match for your daughter?" "Oh? How so?" "Well, see, he's going to be Grand Vizier and he practically sleeps on a bed of gold and anyway, he's looking for a wife..." "Hmm, you're right, this is an amazing idea." My impression is that this was a slow drip of constant poison. Hints here and there. Points made were appropriate. "Oh, honey, speaking of politics, Ahoshta's going to be a great man in society." "Did you hear about his new residence?" "Wouldn't it be grand to be family with someone close to the Tisroc (may-he-live-forever)? Someone like, I dunno, the Grand Vizier?"
I also like to think that Kidrash had a hand in Aravis' riding and knowledge of weapons and all those things Las thought scandalous, though she could have just picked up all of it from her brother. I read a story when I was younger of a girl whose mother died when she was young and so she was raised by her father who taught her all of those "unladylike" things. Perhaps that story has influenced the way I think of Kidrash. *shrugs*
But then, of course, yes, he did agree to marry Aravis off to a horrible man. The advantageous aspects were most certainly part of it (after all, the match would have to appeal to him!). Perhaps he assumed Aravis would see it in the same light, especially if a lot of young tarkeenas where a bunch of Lasaraleens and/or merely accepted their role in the social/caste order. Or perhaps he didn't care.
I don't know. I suppose I sort of see him as a less nice and more grandiose version of Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof (assuming there's at least a few people here who know what I'm talking about, heehee). For example, Tevye hated Lazer Wolf but recognized that Lazer had wealth and therefore position to offer Tevye's eldest daughter and agreed to the match (thankfully, he went back on that word because, like Aravis, the daughter was not keen on marrying a man older than her father (and she had pledged her heart to a poor tailor)).

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2013-08-29T12:21:59 2013-08-29T12:21:59 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1005#p1005 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> Statistics: Posted by Trisha — Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:21 pm


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2013-08-29T12:21:40 2013-08-29T12:21:40 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1004#p1004 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> Statistics: Posted by Swanwhite — Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:21 pm


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2013-08-29T12:20:37 2013-08-29T12:20:37 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1003#p1003 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> outside the home, and also behave like a bully towards those he sees as being still under his control....like his daughter.

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2013-08-29T12:20:01 2013-08-29T12:20:01 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1002#p1002 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> Statistics: Posted by Eva of Cair Paravel — Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:20 pm


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2013-08-29T12:19:25 2013-08-29T12:19:25 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1001#p1001 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]> Statistics: Posted by Tenethia — Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:19 pm


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2013-08-29T12:18:53 2013-08-29T12:18:53 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=1000#p1000 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]>
I think one of the best ways to get to know this Kidrash would be to ask yourself, What does he want most in the world? In other words, what is his desire? That desire will provide his motives which will influence his actions.
Maybe he wants everyone to respect him? That would definitely give him a harsh demeanor. And marrying his daughter to a powerful man would certainly earn him the respect he craves.
Or perhaps he is a weak-willed man who is trying to please everyone at once-- including his peers and his very scary wife.
Maybe he is so focused on living a life of pleasure for himself (gambling, playing a sport, whatever Calormenes do) that he lets his wife handle everything. Or maybe he does that because he's a workaholic (sort of opposite of a pleasure-seeker).

Since C.S. Lewis didn't say a whole lot about the Tarkaan, and since this is your fanfic, you can have lots of fun bringing this character to life. :P

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2013-08-29T12:18:20 2013-08-29T12:18:20 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=999#p999 <![CDATA[Re: Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]>

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2013-08-29T12:18:02 2013-08-29T12:18:02 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107&p=998#p998 <![CDATA[Kidrash Tarkaan (Aravis' Dad)]]>
I'm writing a Narnia fanfiction which Aravis co-stars in with Edmund, Susan, Cor, and Corin. I have a possible subplot that might involve her father, the younger Kidrash Tarkaan, and was curious to hear your opinions on the man.

All I have been able to find out about him is:
1) He is Aravis's father.
2) He had at least two sons; one older than Aravis who died in battle. The second was too young to matter during HHB.
3) He married Aravis's mother and then remarried another woman who disliked Aravis.

Can you remember anything else that is said about him in canon? And if not, what is your general opinion or feels about him? What do you think his character is like?

Thanks!

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