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TLC Forum We'll leave the lamppost on for you. 2023-03-12T08:28:04 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/app.php/feed/topic/312 2023-03-12T08:28:04 2023-03-12T08:28:04 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=88099#p88099 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Statistics: Posted by knightofnarnia — Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:28 am


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2021-04-17T18:29:16 2021-04-17T18:29:16 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=87153#p87153 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> (Note that the violence is upped from the usual Marvel fare; it’s more like the Dark Knight trilogy. Note also that language volume is sometimes increased (given 45-min episodes), and there’s so far been one case of a misuse of Jesus’ name.)

(Light spoilers below)

What I’m enjoying:
- Bucky working through having been the Winter Soldier. This arc (not actually explored in the films, but certainly worked over by fans) intrigues me. What are the highs? What are the lows? How does he reconcile his past with his future? This was begun in ep 1 and hasn’t been touched much since (though its culmination will come in the finale... leastwise, it better)
- Zemo. He comes off as a little more carefree than in Civil War (though at least some of that is a front), but he’s calculating and methodical.
- John Walker (aka the “new” Captain America) in ep 5. I despise the character (as I’m supposed to), but ep 5 (and a scene each in eps 2 and 4) offered glimpses of what could lead to character dissection. Personal preference, but I love poking through characters’ minds.
- The occasional humour that sticks the landing.

What I’m not enjoying:
- The theme attached to Sam’s arc. First off, it’s not consistent with what we’ve seen of Sam before. If it wasn’t a big deal to him in prior material, why is it suddenly such a big deal now? Eps 2 and 5 are the main culprits here (and I imagine there’ll be some bleeding over into ep 6 because of the culmination of eps 2 and 5). I’ve seen whole 2-hour films that literally centered around this very theme than handled it WAY better.
- Sam and Bucky’s relationship. These guys were practically pals in Civil War (or were gearing up to be). Whatever is going on here is... not that. Whoever wrote this didn’t understand the dynamic set up before and doesn’t seem to know what setup to go with now, because sometimes they’re cool and sometimes they can’t stand the sight of each other, but not in a buddy-cop-movie sort of way (as it was in Civil War and the trailers). It’s weird and awkward and doesn’t match what we knew of them before.
- Bucky’s skill level. The dude was the Winter Soldier. He should be a greater menace in a fight.
- The Flag Smashers. I get what they’re doing, where they’re coming from, but I don’t much care. The theme attached to them is an interesting enough concept to explore, given the context of Endgame, but its execution feels like another “timely” theme getting shoved on us.
- Poor weaving of themes and arcs. Everything feels so separate from each other, which means that things get inconsistent attention/development. The show feels like it’s crammed with things it wants to say without making it a coherent whole.
- All the humour that doesn’t stick the landing. (I’m looking especially hard at you, ep 2). I struggle with writing humour, so I 100% understand it’s not everybody’s forte, but yikes.

The summary: the characters (particularly Sam and some of Bucky) are off, the themes are hit over the head with all the grace of a Hulk-smash, and while there are scenes and elements I enjoy, overall... disappointing for this Sam and Bucky fan.
That feels better. I wanted to get that all out of system.

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2019-08-16T01:36:41 2019-08-16T01:36:41 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=86297#p86297 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c6hkMPVhOMg (YouTube is not affiliated with TLC, click at your own risk.)

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2019-04-26T05:20:08 2019-04-26T05:20:08 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85857#p85857 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]>
I won’t be saying much about Endgame, but I did want to put out a bit of info so you know about some of the less desirable content without potential spoilage.
1) We all know Marvel doesn’t shy from swearing. No exception here. In some scenes, it feels more frequent than normal, even though some of the less common choice words from Infinity War do not reappear. Note that a young child says a particular word twice and that Jesus’ name is taken once.
2) There is a conversation in which a date (and a future date) is clearly stated as being of a... nature that TLC policy states there is to be no forum discussion about. For the sake of those who would appreciate the warning, I’m Leaving it at that. (Thankfully, it is not between any of the characters we know.)
3) A couple jokes are made about one character’s physical build. Well, actually, two characters, but the jokes about the one are more problematic.
4) It’s a superhero movie, and one that follows Infinity War no less, so there are a couple moments of intenser violence. Overall, it’s not as bad as Infinity War on that count, but still bears a forewarning.

Edit: I just took a peek at PluggedIn’s review. They’ve kept a lot of information on the down-low, so if you want more particulars on the above, I certify their review as safe from spoilers.

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2019-03-14T18:42:07 2019-03-14T18:42:07 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85797#p85797 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Also, love the motto and the way it’s delivered: “Whatever it takes.”

Regarding archery-girl... Clint’s smile makes me want to say it’s Lila, but it won’t surprise me in the least if it’s Kate Bishop.

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2019-03-14T13:12:37 2019-03-14T13:12:37 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85796#p85796 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> or...... Kate

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2018-12-13T15:06:03 2018-12-13T15:06:03 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85632#p85632 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]>
Hm, yes. Very glad he didn’t just get killed off at the end of Civil War, heh-heh. I was hoping MCU!Bucky would take the Captain America mantle (as he also did in the comics before Sam ever did), but White Wolf is his moniker now, and I doubt that’s gonna change.

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2018-12-12T21:23:39 2018-12-12T21:23:39 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85631#p85631 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]>
And I know Spider-man has another movie that is probably not a prequel, but I don't like year-long cliffhangers.

I suppose I should be glad Cap has survived as long as he has in the MCU, in the comics he was assassinated after the Marvel Civil War, and Sam Wilson took over the Captain America costume for a while.

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2018-12-11T01:27:05 2018-12-11T01:27:05 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85622#p85622 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]>

Tony’s only way of getting off Titan are either the Guardians’ ship or whatever Nebula arrived in. He arrived on Ebony Maw’s “flying donut”, which he and Spidey crashed. Nebula’s transportation, I assume, would have been a smaller vessel, chosen for speed, utility, and likely shorter distances. Thus, he and Nebula have no choice but to go with the larger ship. (Also, we don’t know how long they’ve been floating in space before he records his message to Pepper. I assume it’s a while.)

I want to know how Scott gets out of the quantum zone too....

I never even thought of Mordo, probably because I knew it was Clint, haha. His costume appears consistent with his Ronin persona from the comics and I can’t wait to see him in action.

... If it’s all fake footage, then Marvel gets huge points for trolling! Rather doubt it though. :)

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2018-12-10T21:17:36 2018-12-10T21:17:36 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85620#p85620 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Avengers: Endgame is not going to feel as real - especially with what happened in the last movie. But this MCU Captain America was someone I can understand and empathize with much more than the comic book version. The comic book version is so into duty that he doesn't smile or joke much. I get that the actor might want to focus on other things after playing Cap for ten years, though.

I have spent too much time trying to figure out how they are going to solve the Infinity War crisis.

The real question I have is why is Tony in the Guardian's spaceship when he knows it does not have enough power left to get him anywhere. This doesn't sound like something Tony would do. Was the ship attacked by Thanos or did Tony misread the alien language and think it had more supplies than it did?

Also, how did Scott Lang get out of the Quantum Zone?

And I love how they make Hawkeye look like Mordo from Dr. Strange for a second. Luthien and I were speculating that Mordo could defeat Thanos because he has "anti-magic-magic." Does that make any sense?

What if the entire trailer is fake footage this time?

If the purpose of the trailer is to create more suspense than there was before, it worked.

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2018-12-09T16:59:38 2018-12-09T16:59:38 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85612#p85612 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> I thought that the speculation about the new girl was an older Cassie Lang. But, since it’s merely speculation, there’s nothing to say that it couldn’t be Kate Bishop. Which, I guess would work because Clint is now Ronin and... yeah.
Hadn’t thought of the Nat-brings-him-back-to-the-Avengers angle! It’s a cool thought.

I’m almost certain Cap is gonna die. And I’m conflicted because I’m protective of him, but at the same time, this is the best and most fitting time for him to do so, especially if it’s a sacrifice he makes (and the likelihood of that is crazy high), so I also want him to die.
Some are thinking that Tony will die, but I think he’s got a 50-50 chance. On the one hand, this is the perfect time for him to die (especially since he started the MCU), but on the other hand, the worst possible time, what with his engagement to Pepper, a kid maybe on the way, and Peter Parker (and maybe Harley?) to mentor. If he lives, though, I expect him to retire as Iron Man. Permanently.

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2018-12-08T17:48:36 2018-12-08T17:48:36 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85611#p85611 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]>
There's a picture going around of gwyneth paltrow in an Iron Man suit and something about a "Rescue" persona maybe? so I have hope for Tony. And there was another thing about an actress being added to the movie for an unnamed role. So I know there's speculation that it could be Kate Bishop. (Hawkeye's Protegee?) but then that would mean his family got dusted possible then... (or something worse! :shock: ) If he's not on a mission for the avengers but on his own, what if Natasha brings him back to the Avengers, that would be some nice symmetry.

And Cap, oh Cap. He's the one I'm worried about the most. I feel like He's the most probable to die. Although, I suppose he could be left behind in time/space should they do some time or reality travel.

I really hope they bring back Quicksilver, but I mean I kinda doubt it.

Oh That trailer is so exciting I woke up this morning and couldn't go back to sleep. :(

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2018-12-07T14:10:44 2018-12-07T14:10:44 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85602#p85602 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:10 pm


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2018-08-18T23:14:10 2018-08-18T23:14:10 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85353#p85353 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Lil — Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:14 pm


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2018-07-17T01:21:29 2018-07-17T01:21:29 https://www.thelionscall.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312&p=85192#p85192 <![CDATA[Re: Marvel Movies *SPOILERS* Thread]]> Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:21 am


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