Statistics: Posted by kristi — Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:57 pm
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Statistics: Posted by kristi — Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:25 pm
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"Why not Naiads" - because trees are easier to depict than waves?
Marmota, in that case I was recalling wrong. However, this leaves us with one highly probable solution:
"Lewis was already playing with those ideas at the time of writing VDT (not that unlikely, actually, considering my own creative processes...)"
Statistics: Posted by hansgeorg — Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:42 am
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Statistics: Posted by jesusgirl4ever — Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:24 pm
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What is said about the tree the wardrobe was of in LWW?
Nothing whatsoever.Statistics: Posted by marmota-b — Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:03 pm
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What is said about the tree the wardrobe was of in LWW?
"Lewis was already playing with those ideas at the time of writing VDT (not that unlikely, actually, considering my own creative processes...)"
I think it was highly likely too.
Statistics: Posted by hansgeorg — Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:16 pm
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The coins might be for the tree of protection rather than the two trees of silver and gold, then.
Well, except that the Tree of Protection is also only brought up in MN. So we're left with a) Lewis was already playing with those ideas at the time of writing VDT (not that unlikely, actually, considering my own creative processes...); b) the name of Trees for the coins was for another reason entirely, maybe simply because he liked trees.Statistics: Posted by marmota-b — Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:07 pm
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In the movies they've used replicas of various old coins to represent Narnian currency, including Athenian Owls. I think one of our members has a couple of the coin props. They were mostly used in VDT I believe, where the slave market made currency necessary, but there weren't going to be any closeups on the coins.
Statistics: Posted by kristi — Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:02 pm
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The difference of register made me overlook it to now.
Statistics: Posted by hansgeorg — Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:29 am
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Statistics: Posted by hobbit_of_narnia — Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:18 pm
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And I am sure CSL had a way of very disrespectfully poking JRRT's side about Middle-Earth. Like - less disrespectfully - referring to Numinor (!) or to Tor and Tinidril (Tuor and Idril) in Perelandra or That Hideous Strength.
One version of Lay of Beren and Luthien (in verse form, not complete) was submitted to CSL for criticism.
Instead of saying outright he didn't like such and such a passage as it was he usually gave the word to text critics (invented ones) like Pumpernickel (if you know what it refers to, you know the critic is invented) saying things like "totally unworthy of the poet, certainly inserted by a later scribe" or "could be emended as" (follows slight change of the line or, with changed rhyme, even pair of lines) and sometimes he refers to the public library of Narrowthrode (deliberately as how Nargothrond would sound like now). Though JRRT did that kind of humour in hobbit format and in Farmer Giles of Ham, he didn't like when it was done to parody his serious stuff.
And CSL probably got pretty many peeks both at LotR while it was being written and at the Silmarillion material which was going to remain unpublished up to after JRRT's death. Also, JRRT had accessed parts of Chronicles, when they were read to Inklings, before he completed LotR.
Since one had considered the coin trees came from silver tree and gold tree from Uncle Andrew's pocket, it occurred to me simply in passing this could be what CSL considered "a counterpoint in minor" for the Two Trees of Valinor.
Statistics: Posted by hansgeorg — Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:06 am
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