Or that Peter already seemed to have a pretty steady moral compass and Edmund didn't so much. So while Ed would be more likely to look for acceptance, Peter would probably be off leading a chess club or something.
Peter could've been the more confident one of the two, as well. A little harder for peer pressure to wear down on him. There are always going to be the cruel or petty ones in any large enough social group, but if you've got a thin skin it's going to be easier for folks to find your emotional buttons, push you in the directions they want.Statistics: Posted by Lily of Archenland — Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:04 am
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I don't know. I kind of assumed that the Pevensies were "culturally" Christian. I mean, we have Lucy in the books being distraught that her siblings think she's lying about Narnia because she never lies. Overall, the children seem to have a traditionally Christian sense of right and wrong and they had to learn that from somewhere. I think perhaps they went to church, but that the Gospel, and why we should believe in God, was never explained.
Didn't Lewis say that he thought that if we could see Christianity without all the "stained glass" associations, that we would see its true potency?
...They were in WWII England, yeah? There are really, really good chances that they were culturally Christian, even if just via a certain amount of church in childhood.Didn't Lewis say that he thought that if we could see Christianity without all the "stained glass" associations, that we would see its true potency?
Although I don't think that not liking to be thought of as a liar is strong evidence one way or another - you can certainly have an honor code and want to be a Good Person or trustworthy to your family without thinking of it specifically as Ten Commandments morality. Just - even today there's a certain amount of cultural Christianity in England, and you go farther back you get popular mandatory Bible education in schools, and in some regions or times which sort of Christian you are being a political as well as a religious issue - and the whole state church thing - even if their family wasn't particularly religious, having zero exposure seems extremely unlikely.
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If they were sisters, even with different tastes and Mrs. Pevensie more conservative, why not? Even for sisters-in-law, she was not quite the Christian who could not bring herself about to take advice from an atheist, since if she had been, her children would already have known Jesus under His name "in our world".... or maybe Aunt Alberta convinced their parents that it was a good school, although I have no idea why Mrs. Pevensie would take advice from Aunt Alberta.
Didn't Lewis say that he thought that if we could see Christianity without all the "stained glass" associations, that we would see its true potency?
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And, yes, this is how I used it:
Confer Aslan telling Caspian, Jill and Eustace to physically punish bullies at end of Silver Chair.
Hope this is of some assistance!
And yes, "sth" does mean S-ome-TH-ing.
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I liked getting it - but having read it, I didn't quite like it.
Now, the problem is not this scene: To Edmund's surprise etc. ...
The problem one is that Edmund started out a bit too much of a fighter, a bit out of character.
The other problem is the last scene, since I don't think Sullivan is the type to give up a chance of bullying just because victim remains calm. Also, pacifism like in turning the other cheek when seriously attacked (and bullying is serious) is not what CSL believed in and not what Narnia taught the children. Cfr Aslan telling Caspian, Jill and Eustace to physically punish bullies at end of SC.
Like a bully victim, from time to time, I ought to know sth about bullies.
No, I think rather Edmund would have gone to a different school and one at which Sullivan would have been quickly thrown out. If he had set his foot there and behaved like that.
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Jaygee mentioned the possibility of Edmund's being bullied and becoming a bully. And she's already mentioned that her opinion may be influenced by fanfics. However, I read one just now that, I think, shows a good progression of what Ed's first year could have looked like. I'd share a link, but there is a single use of language.
I'd be interested Ariel, if you'd PM me?Statistics: Posted by Lil — Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:42 am
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Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:55 am
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Yeah, that makes the most sense. Still, why 2 schools in the first place, I wonder?
Peter could have started boarding school x, while Edmund was still at boarding school y.And y could have been horrid to one but not the other. In real life, if I may mention a comparison, CSL had been one school behind WHL, his older brother. And "Wyvern" had clearly different effects on the two, Warnie rather liked it, Jack threatened his father with suicide (he had a gun, it was upper class and many were going to be officers) unless he were taken out of the school.
Like Warnie was better off at Wyvern than Jack?Or Ed was younger and smaller and got picked on more, thus making him nasty.
And the part of school having different effects would be possible in the Wyvern perspective.(My opinion prolly isn't my own; I've read too many fanfics.)
However, it seems both the Lewis brother's were first at Oldie's school, then Warnie went off to Wyvern, while Jack only was going to "Cherbourg" ("Wyvern" and "Cherbourg" are his changed names, he doesn't tell the real names of them), which in retrospect he found a bad influence (worldliness, interest in magic, atheism). (And by interest in magic, I do'nt mean reading Grimm, I mean reading Grimoires, if he could have found one).
Reason Jack went to Cherbourg is he was too young yet for Wyvern.
In other words, the fanfics have some sensible psychology in their authorship.
If they were sisters, even with different tastes and Mrs. Pevensie more conservative, why not? Even for sisters-in-law, she was not quite the Christian who could not bring herself about to take advice from an atheist, since if she had been, her children would already have known Jesus under His name "in our world".... or maybe Aunt Alberta convinced their parents that it was a good school, although I have no idea why Mrs. Pevensie would take advice from Aunt Alberta.
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