Statistics: Posted by narniac101 — Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:57 pm
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Statistics: Posted by Benisse — Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:17 am
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@Swan. I'm more curious as to why Digory didn't marry at all. While it would be sweet if he had married Polly, life doesn't always work out like that so I'm kinda glad they didn't. (Like I didn't end up marrying the guy who drew me the Cair Paravel picture). We know from TLB they did keep contact so I guess that part makes it more curious, especially since there's no reference to her being married either, but I still like the realism of it.
Statistics: Posted by Ajnos — Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:04 pm
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Well I suppose I must concede.
Of course I imagined him as golden haired in that scene, but I suppose I subconsciously concluded that it was just something that happened to him when he went to Aslan's country. I might continue to hold that as a personal head canon.
It's so easy to disconnect young Digory from the professor. I haven't given much thought to his life in between. I wonder when he started growing a beard. I wonder why he didn't marry Polly.
Statistics: Posted by Swanwhite — Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:21 pm
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On the beard-colour thing. I know quite a few men with brown hair and red (or redder) beards. There seems to be something that makes the redness show through more in the beards. Never met a man with a golden beard and different coloured hair, though.
Digory: Golden (beard)/White, TLB Ch. 12; LWW Ch. 1
Uncle Andrew: Grey,MN Ch. 1
Lucy: Golden/Fair,LWW Ch. 17; TLB Ch. 4
Susan:Black,LWW Ch. 17 (Shown as light in some pics: eg HHB, pp. 83)
Tumnus: Curly hair, red skin, HHB Ch. 4
Shasta: Fair, HHB Ch. 14
Caspian: Golden, VDT Ch. 1
Trumpkin: Red like a fox, PC Ch. 5
Nikabrik: Black hair & beard, PC Ch. 5
Reep: very dark, almost black, VDT Ch. 1
R.Daughter: Yellow, VDT Ch. 13
Puddleglum: Greeny Grey, SC Ch. 5
Prunaprismia: Red, PC Ch. 4.
Dr. CorneliusSilvery beard, balding in picPC Ch. 4
Rillian: Fair (my ref. For this is wrong – it says HHB! He must have been blond cause both his parents were and the blond gene is recessive)
Aravis: Dark implied (by “fair barbarians of the North”), HHB Ch. 1
Roonwit: Golden beard, chestnut flanks, TLB Ch. 2
Edmund: In HHB he is described as the “leader of the fair-haired men”, HHB Ch. 4
Statistics: Posted by Ajnos — Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:18 am
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Statistics: Posted by hobbit_of_narnia — Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:50 am
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@Ariel: Digory was blonde??????????? 
Page 168 of my edition of LB (also known as nearly-the-end-of-chapter-twelve): "[Peter] brought [Tirian] next to a man whose golden beard flowed over his breast and whose face was full of wisdom. 'And this,' he said, 'is the Lord Digory who was with [Lady Polly] on that day."Digory blonde?! what no. I need a page number.
I mean, technically, he could have had a beard of a different colour, 'cause that can happen, but I've not seen it happen myself.
@Ajjie and hobbit: Oh, point about the Witch using her knife. Peter does have the advantage of the much longer blade, even though she's physically stronger. Perhaps the movie has tainted my mental images of their fight, since they gave Jadis swords to work with.
@hobbit: Ahhhh, I like your reason for telling the Four to not talk too much of it. That makes sense.
@Ajjie: I know Kristi or Petra did a character connection Susan and Lucy / Martha and Mary.
@Benisse: Wow, that's a great picture!
Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:11 am
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thinking Digory also had brown hair. And then, boom, turns out all three of them are blonde?!)
Digory blonde?! what no. I need a page number. I don't believe it. I know about Lucy and Caspian having golden hair, but Digory?Also I love the drawings of Cair and Benisse's Castle pic. (I don't think it's weird at all to still have the gifted drawing, Aj. Even if the crush is long in the past it's still a wonderful gift from a friend.)
Statistics: Posted by Swanwhite — Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:53 pm
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Last month I got to take a castle cruise down the Rhine in Germany and this castle makes me think of Cair Paravel...
Statistics: Posted by Benisse — Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:08 am
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I refered previously to when we read LWW and MN as set books in Grade 4. After finishing LWW, our teacher had us draw Cair Paravel in art class. So here's my picture that I drew 20 (gasp?) years ago.
Statistics: Posted by Ajnos — Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:03 pm
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Statistics: Posted by hobbit_of_narnia — Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:52 pm
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@Ariel 1) Their battle-skill doesn't bother me too much. There's always an implication that the air of Narnia does wonderful things to the body. I know you need more than physical fitness to be skilled in battle but it seems like a kind of grace where they are given the skill they need for the task at hand. I also noticed that the Witch was using a stone knife against Peter's excellent sword and wondered how that worked but I guess that does even things out like Hobbit said.
2) I think we could do an interesting analysis of the Pevensies and Mary Martha and Lazarus if we wanted. Or Did Kristi already do that with Character Connections?
3) I seriously want to know more about greater Narnian geography now!
4) It is kinda odd that they can't remember the lamppost. He's obviously emphasising that they had their life in our world had become a distant memory. I also wondered why the light was out because I thought it was a living lamp and burned eternally.
5) When Digory says "You can tell someone's been to Narnia from their eyes" and I was thinking "Go on children! Look at his eyes!" I also wonder how long it took them to realise.
Oh, and you won't believe it; I was looking for something else today, and found my spreadsheet with the hair colours. I'll try get it in a form I can share.
Statistics: Posted by Ajnos — Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:49 pm
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Yeah, the Professor's "mane" was partially intentional, partly accidental.@Ariel: Digory was blonde???????????
I knew about Lucy and Caspian, but what on earth, I've always pictured Digory with brown hair too!True (about how good the Pevensie boys get at fighting in a matter of days). I've wondered that too. But then again, Peter was evenly matched against the Witch when all she had was a knife and he had a sword and a shield.
I thought he might have suggested they keep quiet because they all had their young, loose-ish tongues. By the time they're in their twenties they'd know better when to keep quiet about things.
Statistics: Posted by hobbit_of_narnia — Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:24 am
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... I want the Professor's chair, man!
Lol, good point about the courtiers and the disappearance of the Four. I hadn't thought of that, but dark as it is, it's totally logical. I've often wondered about the effects of their disappearance myself. Haven't come to any conclusions though (apart from my Tumnus fic). (Okay, I've mentioned Tumnus fics too many times this week, considering that he doesn't make my top-ten list of fave characters....)
Regarding the boys' hair: No, their hair colours are not mentioned. I would have remembered if my mental images were confirmed or denied at any point (despite the illustrations, I've always seen Peter as blonde and Edmund as black-haired; the movies' casting just made me that much happier). (What is it with Lewis taking so long to get to important details like hair colour? I went all of PC thinking Caspian was brown-haired, all of LWW (and, generally, still to this day) thinking Lucy is a brunette, and the whole series thinking Digory also had brown hair. And then, boom, turns out all three of them are blonde?!)
Chapter 17:
Hey, has anyone else questioned how Peter and Edmund were even remotely effective in battle after one or two days of being in the army? On the one hand, I've just accepted it, but on the other, it really bothers me.
Interesting to note that Peter gives Aslan a report on the battle before mentioning that Edmund "was terribly wounded" and "We must go and see him." Aaaaaand for some reason, that's making me think of Mary and Martha sending for Jesus was Lazarus was sick, even though Peter is acting quite differently.
@Ajjie: Perhaps Aslan was not only urging Lucy to go to the aid of the other wounded (both because she has the means of healing them all and because this may also be a lesson in the service of a queen), but also basically telling her to trust? Father Christmas had said the cordial would work, for one. Aslan himself is satisfied with the state of Edmund's health. Perhaps he is telling her that that is all she needs to know for the time being?
Just want to point out that I appreciate the form in which Focus on the Family interrupted Susan and Lucy's discussion of Edmund's knowledge of the Stone Table agreement. (Peter tells them to pipe down 'cause "It's not everyday your brother gets knighted.")
"How Aslan provided food for them all I don't know...." Hmm, perhaps he started with five loaves and two fish?
@hobbit: Don't worry, I've thought of Legolas and the seagulls here too.
I say, I know the merfolk sing for the Four, but I seem to forget that they are full-on subjects, not just underwater neighbours!
@Ajjie: I like the comparison you draw between the Four's early years and Israel's early years.
So we know that there were more humans than Archenlanders, Calormenes, Telmarines, and various Islanders out there, but besides any that may have lived west of Narnia (ie: neighbours of Telmar) or north (ie: among or neighbours of the Giants), I don't think I've put much thought into other nations besides the ones we know. Lewis mentions nations "beyond the sea", but all we know of seaward nations are the ones mentioned in VDT, and those are pretty small at best. I wonder if there are others that we simply don't know about? I assume that the Garden from MN is basically at the west end of the world (though it sounds as though it does extend beyond that point...) and, at least by the time VDT came about, Lone Islanders knew little of what lay east of them, yet we also know of inhabitants on Burnt Island at the very least.... I think I'm just rambling incoherently now.
Gotta wonder how the Four forgot about the lamppost. Apart from the fact that Lucy tells the story of the wardrobe in HHB, surely it's gotta be some kind of landmark, no matter how overgrown the woods have become. Would they really forget it? Would the natives who lived nearby (I'm looking at you, Tumnus)?
I know that the Professor having been to Narnia himself was a later development, but looking at LWW as part of the finished whole, it's curious that he doesn't just launch into swapping stories with the Four. He tells them to not talk about it too much amongst themselves (which seems perhaps a little odd when you consider the dinner party the Friends of Narnia had in LB?) and to keep their eyes open for those who have had the same sort of adventure. I wonder how long it took them to clue into the fact that Digory knew a great deal more than he was letting on?
I feel like I should have said more and talked about more profound things, but it's late and I'm tired. But, *happy sigh*, I'm in love with Narnia all over again.
Statistics: Posted by Ariel.of.Narnia — Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:54 am
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