Hobbit Discussion *SPOILERS* Thread

[elanorelle]

Haha, true. Basically the entire battle wasn't in the book (or written about, anyway).

[ShiofNarnia]

Yeah and they didn't even make Fili and Kili die defending Thorin "shield and body." I need to read that book again ....
Love your set, btw, Ella.

[Ariel.of.Narnia]

That was the part about their dying in the movie that ticked me off the most. I mean, sure if you want, kill Fili off horribly first if you want so we get the satisfaction of seeing Kili go berserk (though I'd personally prefer it the other way around, but anyway).... The revenge arc, Bolg, and Tauriel got in the way.

[elanorelle]

Agreed, take out Bolg, Legolas and Tauriel, and it would be much better for me. I do love the exchange between Bilbo and Thorin and wouldn't like to see that changed because... feels.

A bit off topic here, I got two HUGE BoFA movie posters from our local cinema. One is with Bilbo pointing his sword outwards and the other is of him kneeling. You can imagine how excited I was to get them even if they are for Eria's party.

[Ariel.of.Narnia]

:O I'd offer to buy them off you, but... I've a feeling they're not for sale.

[elanorelle]

Anyone else know that the extended edition of BoFA is rated R? I'm not sure how I feel about that - Middle-earth films are violent enough as they are.

[Ariel.of.Narnia]

*raises brow* Wow. That's sorta surprising. Well, I guess my list of R movies watched will go up by one now.

[always narnian]

I missed this discussion before, but Fili and Kili's deaths were a big disappointment to me. I literally CRIED at Fili dying, and I don't cry easily. It was mostly because how traumatizing it was—Middle Earth deaths usually give you time to pause, this was so unexpected and so....degrading!

I did see that BOTFA extended edition was rated R. I almost found that strange. I don't remember BOTFA really being as violent as I had expected in itself.

[Ariel.of.Narnia]

It could be that the volume, rather than the intensity, of the violence is what's given the EE an upped rating.

[Lil]

(sorry if I've given my thoughts before I don't remember.)

I liked Tauriel pretty much (I expected to hate her) even in the begining in of BotFA (except I do think she became a plot piece.) It's sad because Evangeline Lily didn't want to be part of another love triangle (I guess she was in the show she was part of before?) and that's what it ended up as. I didn't like legolas as much (he was good just not as great as LotR Legolas...) Fili should have still had commitment to his brother and Uncle over Tauriel. (Fili makes me so sad. He became my top favorite dwarf.) Still even though I didn't expect to enjoy BotFA because I found it enough parts that I enjoyed. It was still a moving movie for me, but I'm still sad that Fili and Kili didn't die defending their uncle "with Shield and body."

(I'm still surprised how much darker the Hobbit movies seemed than LotR which I had trouble with I first began LotR) I started reading the book again and it made it so much sadder when Kili and Fili and Thorin died.