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(@ariel-of-narnia)
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@Tooky: As you mentioned, I think FItz should have straight-up popped the question. I would totally stand behind them getting properly hitched. 😛 (As for something happening to one or the other, I'm fully expecting it. They just had to open their mouths and talk about how they'd never allow a separation again....

@Lil: Titles of the soundtrack? It's so tempting... but I will try to avoid those. I spoiled How to Train Your Dragon 2 for myself based on soundtrack titles. 😛


   
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...but it wasn't till last episode that they've officially officially admitted how they feel (by Jemma letting Fitz know she has had the right amount of time to move on from Will). Anyway, something is going to happen to one of them or already /has/ happened.


   
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@Ela: do you have any theories on the possibility of something having already happened? 'cause you and Eria come up with such great theories and I'm curious. 😀 (If you care to share, we can do it on gchat, rather than here for the sakes of everyone else.)

*is very much enjoying the Civil War suite Lil shared with me*


   
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Last night's episode was so intense, but very good. Also reinforced what I feel about a certain character.


   
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Hive mentioned Civil War. *grins* So, does that mean that he knows it's coming or is he just speculating?
And I grinned myself silly when May ticked off Hotshot James. :mrgreen:
And I was worried for a sec that -- erm... that a certain something would happen to a certain somebody. *hopes those who've seen the ep knows what I'm talking about*


   
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There's a good deal of clips out for Captain America, if anyone is interested.


   
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*bites lip* Like full-on movie clips? I'm really tempted, but I'll force myself to say no....


   
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*bites lip* Like full-on movie clips? I'm really tempted, but I'll force myself to say no....

Clips yeah. not Tv spots.


   
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I can't believe there's only 3 hours of AoS left before hiatus D: I'm 99% positive that something is going to happen (or has happened and will be revealed) to FitzSimmons. Their relationship escalated very quickly in the past few episodes, and that's kinda suspicious.

If they survive, though, I 150% support them getting married - I think that would be awesome. What happened between them two episodes ago...not so awesome.


   
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I'm... surprised there's nothing in here about Civil War yet (though I suppose part of that is because Ela's still out and about 😀 ). Anyway, I saw it! And I like it! It'll require a second viewing to be absolutely sure, but I think Winter Soldier still is my #1. Having said that though, Ant-Man is likely demoted to #3. I'll try to not say too much for those who haven't seen it yet.

Things I really liked:
- Each character (except Hawkeye and Ant-Man) got a healthy amount of full-on spotlight. I mean of the character-building sort. (Ant-Man does take the spotlight at one point, but it's not a character thing when he does.) It is nice to see how they reach their conclusions on the matter(s) at hand and how they process the situations thrown on them and everyone else's take on the matter(s).
- Black Panther. His motives are completely different from everyone else's, but, while I disagree with the extremity, I found them also understandable at the same time. He's still the collected, honourable character I liked from Earth's Mightiest Heroes. And his moves are good. 😀
- Vision and Scarlet Witch. Whether or not these two will have a romance (as per comic canon) remains to be seen, but either way, it's clear that they have a special connection and I liked seeing that unfold onscreen. A good chunk of their character developments is brought out in their scenes together.
- Spider-Man. Oh my word, I had no idea his scenes would be so funny so often (not that it's all him; his scenes also bring out the humour in other characters). I'm by no means a Spidey fan (though I might have to be now, lol), but I think Spidey fans will appreciate his awkwardness (not so much an uncomfortable awkward as a "I don't know what to do with myself" brand of awkward) and the fact that he blabbers a lot. (Apparently, comedic quipping is his way of dealing with the situations he finds himself in.)
- Redwing. For those that don't know, Falcon has either a bird or an independent bot (depending on which versions of the character/suit we're talking about) that assists him. I practically fangirled when it was revealed and I hardly know why. 😛
- Winter Soldier history. Seeing some of what Bucky went through as the Winter Soldier was nice to see. (Well... "nice". It's not-nice stuff, but it was-- you get what I mean.)
- The conflicts. Part of it is corporate (the whole "Sokovia Accords" issue), part of it is personal (the whole Winter Soldier issue). While completely unrelated to each other, the two conflicts did allow for more reason for the fighting.
- Martin Freeman. He's not Bilbo or John Watson. He's a no-nonsense CIA agent with an American accent (that will take getting used to!) No connection to Black Panther whatsoever, though it's not like it can't happen (the Marvel wikia says that he and Panther get so close, that T'Challa at one point makes Everett Ross regent of Wakanda).
- Ant-Man's signal. (I will say no more.)
- The opening and closing scenes. The former drew interest (and was not what I expected to see); the latter tidied things up rather nicely until Infinity War, I think.

Things I didn't really like:
- Zemo is not entirely like his comic character. Maybe he will be in the future, I don't know, but he's not fully the Zemo I know, even apart from not being a WWII villain or even German.
- Location names splashed across the screen in big letters. Bit of a random complaint, but I felt momentarily pulled out of the movie every time the screen announced "BERLIN" or "QUEENS" or whatever.
- Seriously young Aunt May. I think Stark called her "unusually attractive". That's a good way of putting it cause she be young. I don't think it changes Spidey's origin story necessarily, but it, at the very least, changes the dynamics thereof.

I'm sure I've missed things on both sides (apart from what I will not talk about yet), but it's what I'm remembering right now.


   
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Oh, hey, yeah... I saw it too. I watched it twice. (Yay for free tickets!) It is late, so I will talk more about it tomorrow. I do agree with most of Ariel's points though.


   
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@Ela: Twice already?! Lucky....


   
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I want to see it but I accidentally wandered into some plot point spoilers. (Winter Soldier's past) and I am not sure if I should wait till it comes out on DVD.


   
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I am going a third time tonight 'cause my parents did not see it with me and my siblings the second time we went. So far I would rate it above WS. I actually quite liked Zemo as the villain, but then, I had no prior knowledge of who he was in the comics. I think he is much more interesting and complex than the last couple villains we've had, which I appreciate. I cannot think of much more to add at the moment, but after the next viewing I will see if I can find anything else or I remember something to bring up.


   
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@Lil: Personally, I'd jump at the chance to see it again.

@Ela: Oh my word, take me with you!! Haha.
I'll agree with you on Zemo's drive. He's not the supervillain he is in the comics, but his character and story are less mediocre than other baddies.

One thing I forgot to mention was that I liked that we got to see Scarlet Witch's and Vision's powers come into play more than in Ultron. I was especially happy to see Vision's density-shifting (which I barely caught at one point in Ultron) and how much stronger Scarlet's become.


   
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