I agree; I'm not convinced we'll see anything beyond SC. Having said that, I always felt TLB would be one they'd leave out because of the message it portrays (and I want to say "allegorical undertones", but using "allegorical" in a broad sense; with the anti-Christ type figures and other themes from Revelation). Having said that, the new Hollywood Left Behind came out last year, so I may be wrong at them avoiding that sort of thing. And you're right that MN and HHB are the outliers whereas TLB is still about Eustace and Jill.
Years ago I might have thought MN would be omitted, except that there was talk about making it after VDT's release (though this admittedly came from Walden and not Douglas or the current production team.
I guess we'll have to keep waiting to find out.
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Some political correctness would have prevented both HHB and LB from being made by BBC, if you recall that series.
You know, things like not pointing fingers at Muslims. Which was at the time an unfair charge, but a really occurring one against CSL's view of Calormen.
As to MN, well, its so very broadly and overtly Creationist!
I agree; I'm not convinced we'll see anything beyond SC. Having said that, I always felt TLB would be one they'd leave out because of the message it portrays (and I want to say "allegorical undertones", but using "allegorical" in a broad sense; with the anti-Christ type figures and other themes from Revelation). Having said that, the new Hollywood Left Behind came out last year, so I may be wrong at them avoiding that sort of thing. And you're right that MN and HHB are the outliers whereas TLB is still about Eustace and Jill.
Yes, but according to the review the new Left Behind was more focused on just the action than the original story, of course the original movie was a pretty good adaption of the book, so they kind of had to take a different take.
LB would be particularly hard for anyone to make. I mean, we all probably have immense expectations for how amazing Aslan's Country would look and it would be very hard for any moviemakers to capture it. I mean, Lewis describes colors that no one has ever seen before and fruit that is out of this world. The plot is very linear and strong, with clear goals for the characters, so I think it could be adapted very well.
MN, yes, Aslan does create Narnia in that story. I am unclear why that has to be a problem. There would be people who complain about a movie with a creation scene, but Narnia is a fictional series (yikes, I usually don't describe it that way!), and I would guess there would be enough people who would not mind, or even enjoy seeing Aslan create Narnia. It is a very unique idea that people could be present to see a whole world created, and I think people really like the idea... even people who are athiests. There are a number of sci-fi series and comics (Dr. Who, Fantastic Four, etc.) that have the characters get all excited about seeing a big bang. I think there is a reason for that.
About HHB, I am unsure the Calormenes are like Muslims, I mean, there are some similarities (turbans, similar sounding names) but there are also differences. Like Tash being depicted in pictures and having physical existence and Lasaraleen parading around Tashbaan in her fancy clothes. Also, C.S. Lewis' depiction of Calormenes is more empathetic than many depictions of villains - there are good Calormenes. I think the moviemakers could think of something. I do wonder if actual Muslims like or don't like HHB; it might be a good idea to ask them before assuming.
I just don't think we should rule out any of the books - I mean, LWW went against a number of things not politically correct: the Witch was bad, Aslan came back to life after dying to save a traitor, the girls weren't actually in the battle, and the biggie - saying the word "Christmas" aloud when stores across America were telling their employees you couldn't say it or have it on any signs.
Just make the movies good and don't lose the original audience, I think that's the best advice I have.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you would know My Father as well." - John 14:6-7a
On differences between Calormen and Islam - there is also the fact that Calormens are very obviously polytheists. Tash gets the most lip-service but we also have at least one other named deity (Zardeenah, Lady of the Night and of Maidens) and Shasta listing "or a god" among his flights of fancy for possible parentage - implying multiple local possibilities for that. I seem to have some memory of a couple of lines about what "the gods" do or don't like, but am less certain on that and would need to double-check. Are there some Middle Eastern stereotypes involved in the worldbuilding for Calormen? Yeah, probably. But since strict monotheism is one of the most basic facts about Islam, a transparently polytheist culture with a Chief God who gets more worship than the others on a day-to-day basis wouldn't be considered a likely analogue, would it?
"I seem to have some memory of a couple of lines about what 'the gods' do or don't like"
Like Narnia, Aslan, Narnian freedom, etc being "hateful to the gods" ("courtesy" of Tisroc, not likely to live forever).
I have already mentioned that Telmarines and Calormenes are two takes on his reading about cruel empires like Achaean Greeks (who were apparently, Assyrian style, mixing troops from everywhere within their lingo and empire, up to Iliad B) or Hittite totalitarianism and WWD syndrome? Narnia would obviously in a sense be the Troy of Priam, as excavated by Schliemann, if it had been Christian ...?
My brother thinks they may be doing them in the publication order: LWW, PC, VOTDT, SC, HB, MN, and LB. This may be true or they could be doing it according to the actor's age. Although, if they wait too long, they may age too much!!! I honestly just want another movie to come out although SC would be my #1 choice!!!
Ah. I have always wanted HHB. SC was my least favorite, though it would be a good one.
Ah. I have always wanted HHB. SC was my least favorite, though it would be a good one.
Ah. lol. HB was my least favorite book but I would like to see a movie adaption! I really hope they bring back Anna, Georgie, and Skandar for that.. if not, I'll be pretty mad... 👿
I really hope they bring back Anna, Georgie, and Skandar for that.. if not, I'll be pretty mad... 👿
I'm with you. The Pevensies are supposed to be grown up in HHB, and I can't think of any truly good reason they should pull in three different actors for those parts.
I really hope they bring back Anna, Georgie, and Skandar for that.. if not, I'll be pretty mad... 👿
I'm with you. The Pevensies are supposed to be grown up in HHB, and I can't think of any truly good reason they should pull in three different actors for those parts.
YES!!! I think it's sad that they don't want to bring back Will Poulter for Eustace.. he was great for the part and maybe they just shouldn't have let it go for so long if they think he is too old...
With the changeover of hands, though, they're apparently treating SC as a full reboot, as opposed to a continuation of what's already there.
I'm kind of glad about that. It makes me a little more hopeful since the last two movies were such a let down (for me), and not to mention SC is my favorite. 🙂
For Silver Chair, Will Poulter is too big, but if he has a little brother close in looks, that would be all right. For LB, Poulter is not too old : Eustace and Jill are grown.
And of course, all except Peter are on stage (all of the Pevensies, I mean) in HHB, AS adults, so should be played by same team of actors. One could include Peter too, like if starting off with his fighting giants and winning and coming home, and then the three siblings tell him "you won't believe this" and the story starts.
For Silver Chair, Will Poulter is too big, but if he has a little brother close in looks, that would be all right. For LB, Poulter is not too old : Eustace and Jill are grown.
And of course, all except Peter are on stage (all of the Pevensies, I mean) in HHB, AS adults, so should be played by same team of actors. One could include Peter too, like if starting off with his fighting giants and winning and coming home, and then the three siblings tell him "you won't believe this" and the story starts.
Interesting! I always thought that Eustace was too big in VotDT (film) but then again, they were all much older than their character's age.
I'm kind of glad about that. It makes me a little more hopeful since the last two movies were such a let down (for me), and not to mention SC is my favorite. 🙂
They were definitely a let down compared to LWW... however, I just hope that the new crew is going to do it well! I loved the old actors but the whole Caspian and Susan thing turned me off and just some of the changes they made otherwise to VOTDT...