So, I saw it last night. It was great.
First off, I had somehow gotten the idea that Mrs. Clara was related to the Jordans (the main characters). I was quite wrong.
Second, bits of it were slightly similar to Fireproof and Courageous. (The Courageous ones didn't hit me until right now, though, so they aren't quite obvious unless you're thinking about them and looking for them.)
There was definitely less action in this one than in Fireproof and Courageous. I'm not saying there weren't any emotionally intense scenes, cause there were, but no houses burning or shoot-outs with bad guys. 😉
I honestly don't know how to give out spoilers, so this thread might work better if someone (*coughArielcough*) asked me questions. 😉
*snickers* Well then. 😀
I guess first off, how would you rate War Room with the movies that preceded it? (Or would that be like apples to oranges?)
Favourite / least favourite parts/aspects?
I might think of more if I have some info to work with. 😉
Well, I'd probably rate it at 4. Simply because the middle 3 can't be beat, in my humble opinion. 😀
Favorite part? Hmm, maybe the part where Tony reconciled with Danielle (the daughter). That part was so sweet.
Least favorite? Excluding the parts that we were supposed to dislike... The part when it showed public school students praying at the flag pole (sorry, public school people; I firmly believe that public school is the reason we have young people leaving the church in droves) and the final verse they showed onscreen (because it was out of context).
Haha, noted. So you confirm my suspicion in that area at any rate.
Ooh. Daddy-daughter moment. Big sucker for those.... Speaking of reconciling, how was it between Tony and his wife? Like Caleb and Catherine status?
Do you recall what the verse was?
Yes, it was rather epic. 😀
2 Chronicles 7:14.
I also have a couple questions. How does the movie present prayer? From what I've read it seems as though the film wants one to believe prayer is all that is necessary to "fix" a problem and that bothers me. Prayer should be supplemented with action. For an example, I have a dietary problem that is very uncomfortable and I've prayed and prayed that it will go away but it hasn't. However, I believe that through my prayer and eating experiences, I have learned what I should eat and how much and it has lessened the problem where it isn't such an issue anymore.
Second question: Since it is a film about the "power of prayer", does it address unanswered prayers (something I know all too much about)? If it does what is said?
Sorry if I seem cynical, it's just certain ideas presented in most "Christian" films tick me off.
(As an aside and in response to your public school comment, I, a young person who attended public school for the majority of her life, did in fact leave the church and, honestly, I don't want to go back. Maybe others, like me, have found that the churches they attended were only about getting the pews filled so that they could receive the tithes and give sermons about how much a person should tithe. That's been my experience with the churches I've attended and that's why my family decided to leave and do our own studies together - and we have discovered SO much more than we ever could in a church. Just so this thread doesn't get tangled up with my beliefs, you can PM me your response if you want.)
Well, it wasn't like Elizabeth didn't do anything besides pray; I mean, she changed her attitude and stopped picking fights with Tony, and when he started them, she didn't finish them.
No, I'm afraid it didn't, Ela.
(Hope I didn't offend you, Ela; what I really meant was leaving the faith.)
Thanks for asking those, Elanor. And now that I think of it, do the prayers come off as being "name-it-claim-it"? I left a congregation that was, more or less, angling in that direction, and I can only tell so much from the trailers. And PluggedIn mentioned Elizabeth telling Satan, in effect, to buzz off, which is definitely something that bugs me.
Maybe a little bit, now I think about it...
Background of that: She was reading James 4:7, I think, y'know, "Submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you," and, well, she resisted him. 😀
Noted, thanks. 🙂
You're welcome! 😀
Hmm. Okay. Not sure how I feel about that.
(I suppose I did come off as offended and defensive, and I apologize for that. It's just so often that people equate church with faith when it just isn't so.)
Okay, so I was able to watch War Room this weekend, yays! Based on bits of info I'd received from Jaygee and PluggedIn, I had lowered my expectations some (as in, I still wanted to see it though I wasn't as pumped for it as I was opening weekend). And it was better than I expected.
I had mentioned before that a couple bits might bug me. Of the ones I was most afraid of, only one ended up bugging me, and that was Elizabeth figuratively/literally kicking the devil out of her house (or, as I'd put it before, telling him to buzz off). I get that she was resisting him / affirming that her home was under "new management" in a sort of more tangible way, but it still sat wrong with me. It may be that I feel that way because I knew a few people who were all about casting the "demon" out of someone/thing (and sorry, just because a car doesn't start or someone has cancer doesn't mean that there's a demon at work). I just think that if you're going to submit someone/thing to the Lord's care, you don't need to chase the devil out of your house.
One thing I didn't know about that also bugged me was when Miss Clara told the thief to put the knife down in Jesus' name. I will not deny that it can and has worked out that way before. But again, with some of the people I've known, it just seems that it can be so easily abused.
Also, I felt like there was a bit too much of the body odour humour, though the foot-rub at the end basically benefitted from that.
But on to the things that definitely didn't bug me!
Elizabeth's messing around in her closet before she cleaned it out is so true. Her desire to be comfortable, her distraction with her surroundings, even giving up and munching chips and guzzling Sprite. It's so easy to allow ourselves to get distracted, not just with the things around us, but even in our thoughts. And while yes, cleaning out that closet gave her a physically clutter-free room, it was also symbolic of just clearing out all else when setting yourself to pray.
I loved Tony's reconciliation with God, his wife, and his daughter. Both on a spiritual and humorous level, I also loved the lukewarm coffee. I really loved that though this has an all-believer main cast and is targeted toward believers, there was still an Gospel presentation in there that was both effective and smooth.
Also, skip-roping has never looked so fun. 😛
And I'm not remembering much else to say at the moment....
"Is she not allowed to eat chips?" 😛
Yeah, the coffee was great, too. 🙂
Oh yeah, and poor Jennifer! That kid is scarred for life, man! 😛